What are your thoughts about who should be writing abstracts for the book?

Kim,

Do you want to write some of the entries for this book? I do.
I just realized that if we write the annotated entries, we will get credit for "writing" as well as "editing," and since I plan to go up for promotion, I want this credit.
I propose that we both write a certain proportion of the entries. A rationale for doing that is that we can keep the abstracts more uniform.

I also propose that we invite certain individuals to write entries:
Michele Navarre, Linda Brender, Sandy Valensky, Sonia Feder-Lewis, and Karen Uehling. And anyone else you want to add. I want to name them in the proposal. If each one write 5 to 8 entries, that's a more substantial "writing" credit for a resume.

Number of entries in the book?
If there are 10 entries per section and five sections, that's 50. If there are 20 entries per section and 5 sections, that's 100. I am trying to imagine the number of entries in the book for the proposal. Just a ballpark figure. An estimate. What do you imagine?

We should choose the writers and the list should be short:
What do you think about this? I want to keep tight control over who writes the entries. I do not want to have to work with individuals I do not know on this. That means I would not want to put out an open invitaiton on the listserv

This is not something we talked about before. I'll post this comment on our ning to keep a record of it. Please let me know what you think. I'm open to your ideas, of course!
Barbara

Proposal draft 4/5/09

A proposal for an annotated bibliography on adult writers in undergraduate institutions
Barbara Gleason, PhD, City College New York; Kimme Nuckles, PhD, Baker College

Introduction: history of adult learning and adult education; little communication between adult learning and the world of composition; encouraging future research of adult writers and become aware of scholarship that has been done (written by the co-editors)

Annotated bibliography of books and journal articles, as well as a review of online resources, on adult writers in undergraduate institutions; blend these for both the college composition instructor and the adult education instructor so it appeals to a wider audience (written by selected college instructors –chosen by the co-editors)

Profiles of adult writers in college (Uehling, etc.)
Curriculum for adult writers (including online and traditional learning, PLA)
Instruction of adult writers (Teaching Adults to Write, Gleason)
Learning theory of adult learners/experiential learning/PLA)
Settings for adult learners (online, undergraduate institutions, adult learning institutions)

Proposal

I just got your phone message from earlier today. I didn't hear the phone. We had the kids and grandkids here for the MSU Final Four game. Sorry. Call me tomorrow late afternoon if you want. If I don't hear from you, I'll try calling your phone.

I think we have a good start on the type of proposal Carrie is requesting. We can take what we have here and refine it.

One thing we need to consider for the bibliography is what has been published in order to develop our categories. Do we need to see how much is in each area we've discussed?

Major Sections in Book/Chapter Outlne

Kimme,
I'm brainstorming here. Possible topics for sections of the book might be:

Do we want to focus on teaching writing in higher education only? This is a major decision. What are the pros and cons?

Adult Learning Theory: Excerpts from Published Books and Journals
This will be a bit difficult but doable. It is sort of an introduction to the subject for many of our readers. Can you get a copy of Learning in Adulthood, 3rd edition? You'll get a good summary of a lot of territory in that one book. We can sort through it together and decide what theorists ought to be included and why.

Learning Environments for Adult Writers
Prison Writing Programs
Community College Writing Programs
Adult Degree Programs
PLA Programs (most do not include much writing instruction)
Workplace writing programs


Instructional Approaches Designed Especially for Adult Learners

Curricula Designed for TEaching Writing to Adult Learners

Adult Writers: Case Studies of Actual Adult Undergraduate Writers

Teachers of Adults: Case Studies of Teachers Specializing in Teaching Adults

Graduate Education: Preparing Teachers of Adults (there might not be much on this but we also might be surprised if we look around)

The Future: Increasing Presence of On-Line Courses and Programs for Adult Writing Students
e-books, podcasts, and ???

I can't get on to add a document again. What am I doing wrong? I don't see the spot on the top of the dashboard again.

Notes from CCCC

Notes from meeting at CCCC 2009

To do:
Decide on criteria for readings in the bibliography
Select the readings for the bibliography
Select the reviewers; start with the SIG members

The argument for the book: fastest growing population in colleges/universities in U.S. (up 21% by 2016--NCES); the current economic situation; legislation; technology changes; these all will cause this population to grow in post-secondary institutions. 1/3 of the undergraduate population will be over 25 years.

Niche (who will buy the book): those who teach adult learners; focus on the teaching of composition and reading (literacy).

Possible categories: curriculum for adult learners; adult degree programs; PLA; contexts of adult learners, including adult literacy programs/basic education, PLA, mixed classrooms, online, ESL, adult degree programs; curriculum, teaching, learning, assessment.

Introduction (Barbara and Kimme) could focus on the history of adult writers/learners, our experiences with and interests in adult learners/writers. Be sure to address that these are not necessarily basic writers.

People to mention in the introduction: Stephen Brookfield, Malcolm Knowles, Jack Messero, and Cross.

Possible inclusions in the bibliography are Jane Maher, Allen Mandell, Teaching Second Shift, Teaching Writing to Adults, Attending to the Margins (Popken, Gleason), Writing Instruction (K. Uehling). Mention Bryn Mawr Summer Program in the 1900s

These figures about adults learners in post-secondary schools were given at session A06:
By 2010, the NCES says 56+% of students will be over age 22 in universities/colleges, and 58% by 2016. 2/3 will be older than traditional students. By 2010, 42% will be over age 30. Enrollments for traditional students will slow for now. By 201, the trends will reverse. From 2005-2016, under 25 year olds will grow by 15%; 25+ year olds will grow by 25%.

Notes from phone conversation

Here are the notes from our phone conversation last month (Feb.).

Books to read and consider:
Learning in Adulthood, 3rd ed.
Motivation for the Adult Learner
The Making of an Educator
The Adult Learner
College Professor of Adult Learning: Teaching and Mentoring

Authors to read: Patricia Cross, Cyril Hrule, Malcolm Knowles (autobiography--out of print)

Areas to consider: adult degree programs, evolution of community colleges, adult education & programs, prior learning assessment, legislation on adult learners Mondale's 1976 legislation for adult learning in college.

Categories for the book:
Environments for Adult Learning (unions, adult degree programs, PLA)
Instructional Approaches (formal, informal, distance learning)
Adult Learning Theories (research)
Adult Development (life span theory, generational theory)
Who are Adult Learners?
Motivation of Adult Learners
Reasons for Returning to School
Legislation on Adult Learning

Other resources: Institute of Adult and Experiential Learning, CAEL, YouTube videos on adult learning

To create: categories of articles & books for the bibliography, preliminary outline, preliminary list of articles & books

Categories in the Bedford Bib. on Teachers of Basic Writing include: History & Theory: Basic Writing & Basic Writers, Pedagogical Issues, Curriculum Development, An Administrative Focus
We may want to follow this format. We will see what Carrie Brandon from BFW says when we meet with her.

Hi Kimme

I clicked on "grant administrative privileges" next to your name where you are listed as an author. This should give you full administrator privileges. See if the word "customize" appears in the upper right corner of our blog. If so , click on customize and go to that page. I partly taught myself to use this blog. But someone helped me and that made a world of difference in my learning curve. I'll help you in the same way. --Barbara

Hi, Barbara.